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Immigrant murder convictions 'tens of thousands' higher than ICE's
bombshell figures: data expert
There are more than the 13,400 noncitizens with murder convictions
listed on ICE's national docket
By Michael Dorgan Fox News
Published October 4, 2024 9:35am EDT

Illegal migrants with convictions in US much higher than ICE's bombshell
figures: data expert
The number of Illegal migrants with convictions in US is much higher
than ICE figures released last week: data expert

The total number of immigrant noncitizens in the U.S. who have murder
convictions is likely "tens of thousands" more than the 13,400 listed on
Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) national docket, given the
criminal records of border-hoppers in their native countries are not
baked into the data, a data expert tells Fox News Digital.

The bombshell figures released last week via ICE’s national docket show
that 277 noncitizens are currently being held by ICE, while 13,099
noncitizens are on the non-detained docket with homicide convictions.
ICE’s non-detained docket includes noncitizens who have final orders of
removal or are going through removal proceedings but are not detained in
ICE custody.

Of the 13,099 convicted murderers not being detained by ICE, it is
unclear how many are incarcerated by federal, state or local law
enforcement, or roaming the streets. There are an additional 1,845 on
the non-detained docket with pending homicide charges.

In total, 662,566 noncitizens with criminal histories are on ICE’s
national docket, which stretches back decades.

US OFFICIALS NAB PERUVIAN GANG LEADER WANTED FOR NEARLY 2 DOZEN KILLINGS
IN HOME COUNTRY: ‘SIGNIFICANT THREAT’

Eagle Pass border crossings
Texas National Guard troops watch over more than 1,000 immigrants who
had crossed the Rio Grande overnight from Mexico on Dec. 18, 2023 in
Eagle Pass, Texas. (John Moore/Getty Images)

The figures underline the serious threat illegal immigration and not
vetting immigrants thoroughly poses to law-abiding people living in the
U.S. The figures sparked an outcry from border security advocates.

Sean Kennedy, who specializes in law enforcement and crime data
analysis, said the numbers of noncitizens in the U.S. who have murder
convictions — as well as convictions for other crimes like assault and
rape — is much higher than the 13,376 on ICE’s detained and non-detained
dockets because those convictions only apply to crimes committed in the
U.S. and not murders committed in migrants’ home countries.

"We don't know how many people have come into the United States over the
last decades, let alone in the last few years, who have criminal
convictions or offenses overseas," Kennedy said. "Very few of the
migrants who crossed the border who have criminal records will ever be
properly vetted because the criminal records in their home countries are
insufficient, they're not compatible with, or they're just plain not
shared with the United States. And we've seen this over and over again."

Kennedy cited the case of a Peruvian gang leader, Gianfranco
Torres-Navarro, who was wanted for nearly two dozen murders in his home
country and entered the U.S. illegally at the Texas-Mexico border on May
16, as an example of how the vetting process is letting violent
criminals into the U.S.

He was arrested by U.S. Border Patrol near Roma, Texas, before being
released into the U.S. with a notice to appear for immigration
proceedings, Fox News learned. It took almost two months before federal
authorities learned Torres-Navarro was wanted in Peru for 23 killings,
including the slaying of a retired police officer.

"He was a drug gang lord, and we didn't know that because Peru didn't
tell us, or he wasn't listed in a database that we had access to because
our databases are very limited," Kennedy said.

Gianfranco Torres-Navarro
Gianfranco Torres-Navarro, the Peruvian gang leader wanted for 23
murders, was arrested by ICE after being caught and released at the
border. (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement)

Kennedy said that the federal database includes a list of people with
mostly offenses that were committed in the U.S. and by people who are
considered security threats, but there are lots of those who are
security threats who are not identifiable, or their biometric data —
such as fingerprints — is not being collected.

"So if you're living in the mountains of Afghanistan and you go by a
pseudonym, we have no idea [that] when you scan your fingerprints,
you're that guy," Kennedy said, noting governments aren't forthcoming
with the data. "The Taliban government isn't sharing that. The
Venezuelans aren't telling us who their gangsters or mobsters are. The
Chinese aren't telling us who their spies are, let alone the Russians or
the Tajiks or anyone else."

Kennedy said that added into the mix is the roughly 2 million so-called
"gotaways" who crossed the border over the last three years but never
encountered Border Patrol.

"We have no idea who they are," he added.

Kennedy noted that when Border Patrol encounters migrants at the border,
the agency asks for basic information such as their name, place of birth
and also collects biometric information and registers it with the
National Crime Information Center, a national database of all state and
local crime information. It also processes the data through the National
Vetting Center list, which co-ordinates with various federal agencies
like TSA and co-ordinates with other countries.

"But that data is very limited, too, because that's completely voluntary
as to what countries submit … And worse than that, very few countries
participate in agreements where they will share full and freely
information about their criminal context," Kennedy said.

"So we get very little information about foreigners crossing the border,
and very little of it can be verified [and] many of the people who cross
the border have no serious government documentation and sometimes none
at all."

Rachel Morin in. black dress.
Illegal immigrant Victor Martinez Hernandez is accused of savagely
raping and murdering mother of five Rachel Morin in Maryland on Aug. 5,
2023. (Tulsa Police Department/ Facebook)

The ICE data from last week shows that among those on the non-detained
docket, 62,231 were convicted of assault, 14,301 convicted of burglary,
56,533 had drug convictions and 13,099 convicted of homicide. An
additional 2,521 have kidnapping convictions and 15,811 have sexual
assault convictions.

It is not known how many of the noncitizens on the national docket
entered the U.S. illegally or legally. For instance, a permanent
resident Green Card holder who is convicted of a crime is subject to
deportation once convicted and would therefore end up on the national
docket.

Kennedy, who is the executive director of the Coalition for Law Order
and Safety, a nonprofit research group which studies and advocates for
effective public safety policies, said the lion’s share of the near
13,400 noncitizens convicted of homicide, carried out those killings
while in the U.S., and that even if they have served their time they are
not necessarily deported as their home countries can refuse to take them
back.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WITH ‘TERRORISM TIES’ WILL CONTINUE TO EXPLOIT
BORDER, HOMELAND SECURITY REPORT WARNS

That is because in 2001's Zadvydas v. Davis, the Supreme Court ruled it
unconstitutional to indefinitely detain people who would otherwise be
deported if they cannot be deported.

Kennedy said there is no exact figure of the actual homicide crime
convictions rate of noncitizens, but it can be gauged by extrapolating
the numbers from a Texas investigation into noncitizen crimes and then
applying them to the national rate.

That investigation, by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS),
found that since June 2011, illegal immigrants have been charged with
over 1,100 homicides, more than 3,500 sexual assaults and 3,700 other
sex offenses.

It meant that the overall Texas homicide conviction rate in that period
was 2.88 per 100,000 residents, while the illegal immigrant rate was
3.25 per 100,000 residents, or 13% higher. Legal immigrants, by
contrast, were convicted of homicide at significantly lower rates than
illegal immigrants and the overall Texas population.

"So if we extrapolate that across the United States, there would be tens
of thousands of people in addition to these 13,000 who've committed a
homicide here," Kennedy explained.

images of Jocelyn Nungaray
Jocelyn Nungaray, 12, was found strangled to death in a Houston creek.
Venezuelan migrants Franklin Pena, 26, and Johan Martinez-Rangel, 22,
were indicted last month on capital murder charges in connection with
Nungaray's murder. (Fox Houston courtesy of the Nungaray family)

"There is a large number of people who are committing crimes in the
United States who are here illegally that we know about. And there is a
large number of people who are committing crimes in the United States
who we don't know about. They could be gotaways or somehow slipped
through the cracks in another way and that population is a wild card for
US law enforcement because we can't deport them."

"When you're importing hundreds of thousands of young El Salvadorian
men, or Venezuelan men, which for decades were homicide capitals of the
world, it's likely that many of them have committed murder or have been
accomplices to murder because their homicide rates were 20 times the
U.S. rate," Kennedy added.

The Texas DPS investigation found that more than 20% of its incarcerated
illegal immigrant killers were unknown to DHS, Kennedy said, adding this
is likely replicated across other states as well – bringing the figures
even higher again.

"These are all preventable crimes. If these people hadn't come here,
they wouldn't have committed these crimes," Kennedy explained. "So when
we know someone has a criminal history, we have an obligation to protect
our citizens first, not import the world whom some of them are criminals
and offenders and violent and terrorists and other threats to U.S.
public safety."

Michael Dorgan is a writer for Fox News Digital and Fox Business.

You can send tips to ***@fox.com and follow him on Twitter
@M_Dorgan.


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Immigrant murder convictions 'tens of thousands' higher than ICE's
bombshell figures: data expert
There are more than the 13,400 noncitizens with murder convictions
listed on ICE's national docket
By Michael Dorgan Fox News
Published October 4, 2024 9:35am EDT
Illegal migrants with convictions in US much higher than ICE's
bombshell figures: data expert
The number of Illegal migrants with convictions in US is much higher
than ICE figures released last week: data expert
FAUX NUZ "data expert"? Nah, get us a better reference.
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Immigrant murder convictions 'tens of thousands' higher than ICE's
bombshell figures: data expert
There are more than the 13,400 noncitizens with murder convictions
listed on ICE's national docket
By Michael Dorgan Fox News
Published October 4, 2024 9:35am EDT
Illegal migrants with convictions in US much higher than ICE's
bombshell figures: data expert
The number of Illegal migrants with convictions in US is much higher
than ICE figures released last week: data expert
FAUX NUZ "data expert"? Nah, get us a better reference.
More like this:
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More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide are living outside
immigration detention in the U.S., ICE says

Two law enforcement officials said many of those migrants crossed into
the U.S. under previous administrations, and that the total includes
people serving U.S. prison sentences.

The immigrants are part of ICE’s “non-detained” docket, meaning the
agency has some information on the immigrants and they have pending
immigration cases in the U.S., but they are not currently in detention
either because they are not prioritized for detention, they are serving
time in a jail or prison for their crimes, or because ICE cannot find
them, three law enforcement officials said.

Two of the officials said it is not known how many are incarcerated
because ICE is not always privy to that data from state and local law
enforcement agencies.

https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/13000-immigrants-convicted-
homicide-living-freely-us-ice-data-rcna173125

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The claim that the Biden administration has allowed more than 13,000
immigrants convicted of murder to enter and roam the U.S. freely is
misleading.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) data estimates that there
are more than 13,000 immigrants in the U.S. convicted of murder who are
not currently in ICE custody, but they were released over a period of 40
years and did not all enter the country during the Biden administration.
Some of the 13,000 immigrants could also be in prison or jail.

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/verify/immigration/claim-biden-
administration-let-in-13000-immigrants-convicted-murder-misleading/536-
58e0c8b5-ab29-4cdb-b138-468e95523ab5

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40 years - NOT the 3/5 years of Biden. And an unknown number of those
are in prison - just not ICE custody.

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